i began this blogspot to save sending emails to all i suspected might need or want to review: avoid being a spammer. so consider these things i thought you might find interest in. if you like what you see, pass it on. If the power elites didn’t need the consent of the public to rule, they wouldn’t have to lie constantly about their reasons for their wars on everyone. as gore vidal said: i'm not a conspiracy theorist, i'm a conspiracy observer.
Tuesday, September 4, 2018
you may have noticed by now that there are virtually no political figures in this country that i believe to be honest or what they sell themselves as being, with the exception perhaps of scum like schummer, the representative of the new york part of israel. hurricane trump is one of those i have no faith in to be what he sells himself as being, and the same is true of those who oppose him. its all a big pro-wrestling game and most americans haven't noticed the con yet. at the same time the 'opposition' is well represented in this cartoon and is at least equally abhorrent. the fake news 'burning issue' invented by saint obama the day after the 'selection' is one facade, as is the 'russians did it' crap. i suspect that the goal of this 'match' is as obscure as it was in the reign of the decider: to remove once existing 'freedoms'. the decider it went after the middle of the bill of rights using the 911 false flag. saint obama's focus was the second amendment and now the focus is upon the first amendment. what will be the next move may well be displayed in whatever 'emergency' we're presented with next;
you may have noticed that i don't share the 'mainstream media' opinion of mcstain, formerly senator and war criminal. i got an email this am with the following content i've pasted here;
this is from a comment on a rather pro-McCain video done about 10 years ago, when he was candidate for the WH.
this is from a comment on a rather pro-McCain video done about 10 years ago, when he was candidate for the WH.
"You know what McCain has actually done?
He's armed a bunch of fucking terrorists that the CIA is supplying chemical weapons to, in order to murder men, women, and children, to frame Assad for a chemical weapons attack.
This is because Genie Energy brokered a deal with Israel in 2013 to mine the Golan Heights of it's oil - which is Syrian land, occupied by Israel, illegally. So the goal is destroy Syria, and it doesn't matter how many innocent are murdered, so Genie Energy and Israel can have a tidy profit.
On the strategic board of directors of Genie Energy are Rupert Murdoch, Dick Cheney, Robert Woolsey (ex CIA director), and Jacob Rothschild (banking scum, thief) - among other criminals.
That's what the war in Syria is about, and the fucking piece of shit, is just a servant of the other pieces of shit I've mentioned. If you think you have a government, you're naive, you have a mafia that calls itself the government, and uses the military as it's personal enforcers. We have traitors running our nation, and McCain is one of them."
short enough to paste the entire article you get the opportunity to discover some realities about palestine that 'our free press' will not mention or allow;
First, the Trump Administration “took Jerusalem off the table.” Now, in an especially dangerous display of recklessness, they have announced their intention to do the same for the Palestinian “right of return.”
The first indication that this was in the works came with the administration’s announcement that they would be suspending all US assistance to UNWRA, the UN agency created to address the humanitarian needs of the Palestinians who were forced to flee from their homes in 1948 and again in 1967. More recently, the administration supported by some Republican members of Congress, launched an effort to limit “refugee” status to only those Palestinians who were victims of the 1948 expulsions. [In a future article I will address the devastating humanitarian and political consequences that will result from crippling the work of UNWRA.]
Because Israel has always rejected its culpability for the Palestinian refugee crisis and has consistently refused to acknowledge that those who fled in 1948 had any rights to repatriation, the US intent to take the refugee issue “off the table” was described by one Israeli writer as a “dream come true.” And a minister in Prime Minister Netanyahu’s government celebrated the US move as “finally speaking the truth to the Arab lie that has been marketed all over the world for decades…There is no reason for [Palestinians] to dream of returning.”
Israel claims that they have no responsibility for Palestinian refugees. As is their practice, the Israelis have attempted to exonerate themselves by creating “alternate facts”—that Palestinians voluntarily left their homes or that they were ordered to leave by advancing Arab armies. However, an examination of the historical record establishes that the Zionist political leadership executed a deliberate plan to “cleanse” entire areas of their Arab inhabitants in order to create a state that would be larger than what was provided by the UN partition, with fewer Arabs.
They are indicted by their own words:
Yigal Allon (leader of the Palmach – the official Zionist military):
After its establishment, Israel compounded its crimes against the Palestinians by passing a series of Orwellian laws which enabled the new state to seize Arab-owned land (over 2 million acres were taken—including businesses, homes, orchards, and farmland) and demolish 385 Arab villages—all done in the effort to physically erase any evidence of the prior Palestinian presence.
I spent time in Palestinian camps in 1971 collecting the nightmarish personal stories of those who were expelled, perusing their family photo albums of the homes they had left behind, and being shown the keys they still carried -which had become a sacred symbol representing what they had lost and hoped to regain. One said to me “the Jews said they remembered for 2,000 years. For me, it has only been 23 years, how can I forget?”
In the face of this, the actions of the Trump Administration are not only dangerous and reckless, they are cruel and insensitive, and violations of international law and covenants.
While some conservatives love to cherry pick the celebrated 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights—citing their favorite, Article 18, which guarantees freedom of religion and belief—they willfully ignore other relevant articles:
Article 9: “No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.”
Article 13/2: “Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.”
Article 17/2: “no one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.”
In addition, there is the 1948 UN resolution declaring “the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes”—a resolution which has been regularly and overwhelmingly passed by the UN General Assembly.
When in the face of this incontrovertible history of Israeli “ethnic cleansing” and international conventions on the rights of refugees, I cringe when I hear of the Trump Administration’s intention to take the refugee issue “off the table.” What they are, in fact, taking off the table is so much more. At stake is: the lives and fortunes of innocent Palestinians and their families; the rule of law; simple human justice; and the possibility of peace. The more than 5 million Palestinians living under occupation and in refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria cannot be erased and in their attempt to do so, it is not only the Israelis who are guilty of the war crime of ethnic cleansing. The Trump Administration is making itself complicit in this crime.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/mr-trump-you-cannot-erase-the-palestinian-right-to-return/5652830
First, the Trump Administration “took Jerusalem off the table.” Now, in an especially dangerous display of recklessness, they have announced their intention to do the same for the Palestinian “right of return.”
The first indication that this was in the works came with the administration’s announcement that they would be suspending all US assistance to UNWRA, the UN agency created to address the humanitarian needs of the Palestinians who were forced to flee from their homes in 1948 and again in 1967. More recently, the administration supported by some Republican members of Congress, launched an effort to limit “refugee” status to only those Palestinians who were victims of the 1948 expulsions. [In a future article I will address the devastating humanitarian and political consequences that will result from crippling the work of UNWRA.]
Because Israel has always rejected its culpability for the Palestinian refugee crisis and has consistently refused to acknowledge that those who fled in 1948 had any rights to repatriation, the US intent to take the refugee issue “off the table” was described by one Israeli writer as a “dream come true.” And a minister in Prime Minister Netanyahu’s government celebrated the US move as “finally speaking the truth to the Arab lie that has been marketed all over the world for decades…There is no reason for [Palestinians] to dream of returning.”
Israel claims that they have no responsibility for Palestinian refugees. As is their practice, the Israelis have attempted to exonerate themselves by creating “alternate facts”—that Palestinians voluntarily left their homes or that they were ordered to leave by advancing Arab armies. However, an examination of the historical record establishes that the Zionist political leadership executed a deliberate plan to “cleanse” entire areas of their Arab inhabitants in order to create a state that would be larger than what was provided by the UN partition, with fewer Arabs.
They are indicted by their own words:
Yigal Allon (leader of the Palmach – the official Zionist military):
“We saw the need to clean the upper Galilee and to create…Jewish continuity in the entire area of the upper Galilee…We, therefore, tried a tactic…which worked miraculously well. I gathered all of the Jewish Mukhtars, who have contact with the Arabs in the different villages, and asked them to whisper in the ears of the Arabs that a large Jewish reinforcement has arrived in Galilee and that it is going to burn all the villages in the Huleh. They should suggest to these Arabs, as their friends, to escape while they had time to flee. The flight numbered in the myriads. The tactic reached its goal completely.”David Ben Gurion (speaking of “Plan D,” the operation designed to expand the size of the “Jewish State” and to reduce the number of Arabs within it):
“These operations can be carried out in the following manner: either by destroying villages (by setting them on fire, by blowing them up, and by planting mines in their rubble), and especially those population centers that are difficult to control permanently; or by mounting combing and control operations according to the following guidelines: encirclement of the villages, conducting a search inside of them. In case of resistance, the armed forces must be wiped out and the population expelled outside the border of the state.”Yigal Allon:
“There is a need for strong and brutal reaction. We need to be accurate about timing, place, and those we hit. If we accuse a family – we need to harm them without mercy, women and children included. Otherwise, this is not an effective operation. During the operation there is no need to distinguish between the guilty and the not guilty.”Menachem Begin (leader of the Irgun):
“Arabs throughout the country, induced to believe wild tales of ‘Irgun butchery’, were seized with limitless panic and started to flee for their lives. The mass flight soon developed into a maddened uncontrolled stampede. Of the almost 800,000 who lived in the present territory of the State of Israel, only 165,000 remain. The political and economic significance of this development can hardly be overestimated.”In the aftermath of the war, during which thousands of Palestinians were murdered and another 700,000 were forced into exile, Ben Gurion celebrated what he termed “a double miracle”—an Israel with more land and less Arabs.
After its establishment, Israel compounded its crimes against the Palestinians by passing a series of Orwellian laws which enabled the new state to seize Arab-owned land (over 2 million acres were taken—including businesses, homes, orchards, and farmland) and demolish 385 Arab villages—all done in the effort to physically erase any evidence of the prior Palestinian presence.
I spent time in Palestinian camps in 1971 collecting the nightmarish personal stories of those who were expelled, perusing their family photo albums of the homes they had left behind, and being shown the keys they still carried -which had become a sacred symbol representing what they had lost and hoped to regain. One said to me “the Jews said they remembered for 2,000 years. For me, it has only been 23 years, how can I forget?”
In the face of this, the actions of the Trump Administration are not only dangerous and reckless, they are cruel and insensitive, and violations of international law and covenants.
While some conservatives love to cherry pick the celebrated 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights—citing their favorite, Article 18, which guarantees freedom of religion and belief—they willfully ignore other relevant articles:
Article 9: “No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.”
Article 13/2: “Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.”
Article 17/2: “no one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.”
In addition, there is the 1948 UN resolution declaring “the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes”—a resolution which has been regularly and overwhelmingly passed by the UN General Assembly.
When in the face of this incontrovertible history of Israeli “ethnic cleansing” and international conventions on the rights of refugees, I cringe when I hear of the Trump Administration’s intention to take the refugee issue “off the table.” What they are, in fact, taking off the table is so much more. At stake is: the lives and fortunes of innocent Palestinians and their families; the rule of law; simple human justice; and the possibility of peace. The more than 5 million Palestinians living under occupation and in refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria cannot be erased and in their attempt to do so, it is not only the Israelis who are guilty of the war crime of ethnic cleansing. The Trump Administration is making itself complicit in this crime.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/mr-trump-you-cannot-erase-the-palestinian-right-to-return/5652830
chris hedges explores the state of american prisons in light of the strike currently taking place in seventeen states and might present some items of which you are unfamiliar;
The only way to end slavery is to stop being a slave. Hundreds of men and women in prisons in some 17 states are refusing to carry out prison labor, conducting hunger strikes or boycotting for-profit commissaries in an effort to abolish the last redoubt of legalized slavery in America. The strikers are demanding to be paid the minimum wage, the right to vote, decent living conditions, educational and vocational training and an end to the death penalty and life imprisonment.
These men and women know that the courts will not help them. They know the politicians, bought by the corporations that make billions in profits from the prison system, will not help them. And they know that the mainstream press, unwilling to offend major advertisers, will ignore them.
But they also know that no prison can function without the forced labor of many among America’s 2.3 million prisoners. Prisoners do nearly all the jobs in the prisons, including laundry, maintenance, cleaning and food preparation. Some prisoners earn as little as a dollar for a full day of work; in states such as Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, South Carolina and Texas, the figure drops to zero.
Corporations, at the same time, exploit a million prisoners who work in prison sweatshops where they staff call centers or make office furniture, shoes or clothing or who run slaughterhouses or fish farms.
If prisoners earned the minimum wage set by federal, state or local laws, the costs of the world’s largest prison system would be unsustainable. The prison population would have to be dramatically reduced. Work stoppages are the only prison reform method that has any chance of success. Demonstrations of public support, especially near prisons where strikes are underway, along with supporting the prisoners who have formed Jailhouse Lawyers Speak, which began the nationwide protest, are vital. Prison authorities seek to mute the voices of these incarcerated protesters. They seek to hide the horrific conditions inside prisons from public view. We must amplify these voices and build a popular movement to end mass incarceration.
The strike began Aug. 21, the 47th anniversary of the 1971 killing of the Black Panther prison writer and organizer George Jackson in California’s San Quentin. It will end Sept. 9, the 47th anniversary of the 1971 Attica prison uprising. It is an immensely courageous act of civil disobedience. Prison authorities have innumerable ways to exact retribution, including placing strikers in solitary confinement and severing communication with the outside world. They can take away the few privileges and freedoms, including the limited freedom of movement, yard time, phone privileges and educational programs, that prisoners have. This makes the defiance all the more heroic. These men and women cannot go elsewhere. They cannot remain anonymous. Retribution is certain. Yet they have risen up anyway.
https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/the-slaves-rebel/
The only way to end slavery is to stop being a slave. Hundreds of men and women in prisons in some 17 states are refusing to carry out prison labor, conducting hunger strikes or boycotting for-profit commissaries in an effort to abolish the last redoubt of legalized slavery in America. The strikers are demanding to be paid the minimum wage, the right to vote, decent living conditions, educational and vocational training and an end to the death penalty and life imprisonment.
These men and women know that the courts will not help them. They know the politicians, bought by the corporations that make billions in profits from the prison system, will not help them. And they know that the mainstream press, unwilling to offend major advertisers, will ignore them.
But they also know that no prison can function without the forced labor of many among America’s 2.3 million prisoners. Prisoners do nearly all the jobs in the prisons, including laundry, maintenance, cleaning and food preparation. Some prisoners earn as little as a dollar for a full day of work; in states such as Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, South Carolina and Texas, the figure drops to zero.
Corporations, at the same time, exploit a million prisoners who work in prison sweatshops where they staff call centers or make office furniture, shoes or clothing or who run slaughterhouses or fish farms.
If prisoners earned the minimum wage set by federal, state or local laws, the costs of the world’s largest prison system would be unsustainable. The prison population would have to be dramatically reduced. Work stoppages are the only prison reform method that has any chance of success. Demonstrations of public support, especially near prisons where strikes are underway, along with supporting the prisoners who have formed Jailhouse Lawyers Speak, which began the nationwide protest, are vital. Prison authorities seek to mute the voices of these incarcerated protesters. They seek to hide the horrific conditions inside prisons from public view. We must amplify these voices and build a popular movement to end mass incarceration.
The strike began Aug. 21, the 47th anniversary of the 1971 killing of the Black Panther prison writer and organizer George Jackson in California’s San Quentin. It will end Sept. 9, the 47th anniversary of the 1971 Attica prison uprising. It is an immensely courageous act of civil disobedience. Prison authorities have innumerable ways to exact retribution, including placing strikers in solitary confinement and severing communication with the outside world. They can take away the few privileges and freedoms, including the limited freedom of movement, yard time, phone privileges and educational programs, that prisoners have. This makes the defiance all the more heroic. These men and women cannot go elsewhere. They cannot remain anonymous. Retribution is certain. Yet they have risen up anyway.
https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/the-slaves-rebel/
here i paste in the full content of the link at the bottom. pretty straightforward and sums up what many i know believe to be the state of things;
Western civilization is dying before our eyes.
Our political processes are sclerotic, dysfunctional, corrupt and unable to address the problems we face as a society. It does not matter what political religion you belong to, it is a fact that our system is corrupt and broken, and your party shares a measure of blame.
Religion is also corrupt and has failed to provide direction and meaning for its followers. It does a fine job of raping kids and stealing money from gullible followers though. Religion is failing because science is replacing it. Fewer and fewer people believe in magical thinking (required to be a believer). This is not a terrible thing per se, but it is a sign of a collapsing society.
The judicial system is corrupt and exists to punish the poor and
protect the powerful. We have a for profit system designed to enrich the
rich and punish the poor for profit. There is no justice system.
Entertainment is corrupt. It exists to promote the ideas of the powerful. It exists to make people stupid and consume things they do not need or want. It exists to destroy the family which is the basic unit of civilization. Destroy the family, you destroy a civilization.
The family has been destroyed. More people live in broken families than in intact families.
Education is corrupt and has failed to educate. We teach kids what to think, not how to think. Higher education exists for one reason now: to make money. Its a racket. You have to go deep into debt to even start playing the economic game. Universities exist to extract as much money from you as they can while at the same time filling your head with garbage.
Money has been corrupted. Fiat currency is designed to make us debt slaves. We work harder than ever before and we are making less than we were 40 years ago. More people are on some kind of means tested government subsidy than are not. We have more people dependent on the government than not.
Personal failure. As a result of the overwhelming failure of our
system and society, more and more people are turning to drugs, booze and
suicide. They cannot mentally, emotionally manage their lives so they
turn to anything that feels good or they just end it. We have an opioid
epidemic.
Food and water supply collapse and failure. Americans are the fattest people on the planet. We consume more food than we need and most of the food we consume is toxic. We have a diabetes and obesity epidemic. We are literally poisoning ourselves to death with what we eat and drink.
Health collapse. We are getting sicker, fatter, dumber and dying younger and we are paying more and more for it! Our health care industry extracts as much money from us as it can and does not promote health. It promotes dependence and barely manages to keep us alive, suffering with our self inflicted maladies, for as long as they can bilk us for money.
The list goes on. Every day I read the news I see more evidence this culture as died and has been replaced with consumerism, distraction, drugs.
There is no way to fix any of this. We are not going to one day decide its time to change our ways and reverse course. This level of dysfunction and failure only ends when it dies and is long gone from memory. We cannot fix what is broken. Sometimes things just die/end and there is nothing that can be done. This is one of those times.
http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/corruption-and-failure-signs-of-a-collapsing-society-a-rant/
Western civilization is dying before our eyes.
Our political processes are sclerotic, dysfunctional, corrupt and unable to address the problems we face as a society. It does not matter what political religion you belong to, it is a fact that our system is corrupt and broken, and your party shares a measure of blame.
Religion is also corrupt and has failed to provide direction and meaning for its followers. It does a fine job of raping kids and stealing money from gullible followers though. Religion is failing because science is replacing it. Fewer and fewer people believe in magical thinking (required to be a believer). This is not a terrible thing per se, but it is a sign of a collapsing society.
Entertainment is corrupt. It exists to promote the ideas of the powerful. It exists to make people stupid and consume things they do not need or want. It exists to destroy the family which is the basic unit of civilization. Destroy the family, you destroy a civilization.
The family has been destroyed. More people live in broken families than in intact families.
Education is corrupt and has failed to educate. We teach kids what to think, not how to think. Higher education exists for one reason now: to make money. Its a racket. You have to go deep into debt to even start playing the economic game. Universities exist to extract as much money from you as they can while at the same time filling your head with garbage.
Money has been corrupted. Fiat currency is designed to make us debt slaves. We work harder than ever before and we are making less than we were 40 years ago. More people are on some kind of means tested government subsidy than are not. We have more people dependent on the government than not.
Food and water supply collapse and failure. Americans are the fattest people on the planet. We consume more food than we need and most of the food we consume is toxic. We have a diabetes and obesity epidemic. We are literally poisoning ourselves to death with what we eat and drink.
Health collapse. We are getting sicker, fatter, dumber and dying younger and we are paying more and more for it! Our health care industry extracts as much money from us as it can and does not promote health. It promotes dependence and barely manages to keep us alive, suffering with our self inflicted maladies, for as long as they can bilk us for money.
The list goes on. Every day I read the news I see more evidence this culture as died and has been replaced with consumerism, distraction, drugs.
There is no way to fix any of this. We are not going to one day decide its time to change our ways and reverse course. This level of dysfunction and failure only ends when it dies and is long gone from memory. We cannot fix what is broken. Sometimes things just die/end and there is nothing that can be done. This is one of those times.
http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/corruption-and-failure-signs-of-a-collapsing-society-a-rant/
this writer speaks of what is called the civil war as the war between the states, which is a bit more accurate, but should really be called the war of succession. he spends a bit more time calling out 'leftists' than i think productive but that is the direction our current re-write of history is coming from. in this 'land of the free' history is frequently re-written even though when i was in school we were taught that only tyrannies did such things. if you've been looking around instead of just watching what the tv tells you is real, you'll notice we haven't been the 'land of the free' for some time. this article gets into several corners and looks around;
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/09.18/weapon.html
History as a (Leftist) Weapon
Gail Jarvis
Gail Jarvis
There
is a tendency for each generation to assume its opinions are the
ultimate correct opinions. But each generation’s beliefs are typically
modified by succeeding generations. Unfortunately, societal structures
are sometimes altered based on contemporary notions that lose credence
over time. This is the case with Social Justice Warriors in this
generation. They demand that whatever doesn’t suit present-day social
theories must be “eliminated.”
One of the justifications for this cultural cleansing
is this generation’s historical interpretation of the War Between the
States (WBTS). Some assume that this current version – moral opposition
to slavery caused the North to fight the South – has a long-standing
consensus among historians. But this is only one of countless
interpretations historians have produced over the years. Various
historians, writing at different times and places, have created diverse
interpretations of the WBTS. These history reinterpretations are often
influenced by major events occurring in later generations.
One of these major events was World War I. This war
was broadly viewed as “futile” – not only unnecessary, but instigated by
a “bungling generation.” Like the WBTS, historians put forth various
causes for this fruitless World War. It was supposed to be the war to
end all wars, but it created more problems than it solved. The severe
measures that the Treaty of Versailles imposed on Germany soon led to
WWII. Many historians were influenced by this problematic war which made
them skeptical of the purposes and relevance of the WBTS. Some decided
that, like WWI, the WBTS could have been avoided. They also minimized
the importance of slavery as a cause of the War and maintained that the
basic conflict was economics.
At the other extreme was WWII. This war was deemed
necessary as the ruthless Nazi Party must be stopped. The immense
destruction of European cites had to be halted. Also the inhumane
treatment and mass executions of those incarcerated in concentration
camps – Communists, Socialists, Jews, and other “enemies of the state”
had to be ended. WWII caused many historians to rethink the WBTS. These
historians again made slavery an essential cause of the WBTS . They also
maintained that the War was necessary because it ended slavery and
saved the Union.
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/09.18/weapon.html
just about since the beginning of hurricane trump's reign, i've been saying its a lot like professional wrestling in many aspects of how he operates, and now a well known economist echos my thoughts in this article;
POITOU, FRANCE – The U.S. economy… all $20 trillion of it… explained in a single tweet (any similarity between this and one you might get from the president of the United States of America is pure coincidence):
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/09.18/turnson.html
POITOU, FRANCE – The U.S. economy… all $20 trillion of it… explained in a single tweet (any similarity between this and one you might get from the president of the United States of America is pure coincidence):
Just look at the Dow (near an all-time high)… and unemployment (near an all-time low)…The tax cuts ARE WORKING! The trade war, too! And those who say otherwise are just jealous SOBs!
Cartoon Personalities
In reality TV – and performance art of the wraslin’
genre – you add dramatic tension by creating simplified, cartoon
personalities and then allowing them to get into snits with one another.
The audience tunes in to find out how the spats will be resolved.
In professional wrestling, it is pretty straightforward.
One of the wraslers insults or challenges another
one. Wives and girlfriends are brought onstage to stir up animal
passions. There’s some pushing and shoving in the dressing room – caught
by security cameras! And then, the stage is set for a resolution in the
ring.
A tweet is not long enough to elaborate on a policy,
an idea, or a complete thought. But it is great for this kind of
feud-building.
President Trump uses tweets effectively. For example,
he tweeted that the lawful head of North Korea was a “bad dude,” a
“maniac,” and a “rocket man.”
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/09.18/turnson.html
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